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Class discussion => Reaver => Topic started by: Brummy on September 24, 2008, 15:31:37 PM



Title: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 24, 2008, 15:31:37 PM
Just post ur Reaver build here and write how to use if it isnt already posted. I wanna try something else then just the build i have right now.

Sprint 12
Gash 12
Fokus Attack 12
Telekinetic Push 12
Telekinetic Hold 1
Whirlwind 1


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: FLuori on September 24, 2008, 16:42:29 PM
why don't you try best build by yourself. Try to make up some new totally different combinations... However, here is my one...

Metabolism   12
Flurry 12
Telekinetic Push 4
Telekinetic Hold 1
Bone Blades 12
Sprint 9



Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: mayhem on September 24, 2008, 17:04:59 PM
If you dont need meta

Whirlwind 1
Flurry 12
Telekinetic Hold 1
Sprint 12
Telekinetic Push 12
Bone Blades 12

If you need meta

Whirlwind 1
Flurry 12
Meta 12
Sprint 12
Telekinetic Push 1
Bone Blades 12


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 24, 2008, 18:02:22 PM
ok i will try them out :)


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: FLuori on September 24, 2008, 18:09:34 PM
Mayhem, which of those is "best reaver build in dawnspire history?"


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 24, 2008, 19:07:21 PM
Thx u for the Reaver builds :)
They're rly good to kill Prowler ;D but anyway Flurry sucks if enemy Witch has NW and CE so i wont use it in GvGs anyway :)
Except they dont have Witch ;D


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: mayhem on September 24, 2008, 20:07:05 PM
Then you are doing it wrong ;)

And Fluori its the one without meta :)


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 24, 2008, 20:48:38 PM
hmm if enemy witch makes NW and CE on Templar and Templar stays in. What shall i do then? :o


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Smiskfisk on September 24, 2008, 20:50:05 PM
hmm if enemy witch makes NW and CE on Templar and Templar stays in. What shall i do then? :o

That have nothing to do with your Reaver build. Thats more about basic tactic. Stay on topic, for once.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 24, 2008, 20:56:40 PM
Thats more or less on topic. Its about Reaver build and how to use the Reaver build. The basic of Reavers have nothing to do with Flurry that has something to do with the Reaver build.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Smiskfisk on September 24, 2008, 21:08:58 PM
Just post ur Reaver build here if it isnt already posted. I wanna try something else then just the build i have right now.

I don't read anything here about tactics. Ofc, posting some thoughts behind your build wont hurt anyone.
Whatever, I did not start this thread, so who am I to complain O.o


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 24, 2008, 21:15:40 PM
hmm ok then i will open another thearad for this.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Sparrisen on September 25, 2008, 01:08:54 AM
FA 12
Flurry 12
Sprint 12
BB 4
TH 8
TP 2

Templar defense build. Templar Bash + FA is great damage, flurry will make anyone hitting your templar slow down, and take a REAL hurting, TH will cool that rage seeker down, and TP is just as a second interrupt. Most likely, your target will run after your templar, and the bleed from BB will hurt a lot.

Sprint + FA gives you a potential THIRD interrupt, due too 100+ damage.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Hullu on September 25, 2008, 07:33:54 AM
WW 12
Meta 12
Fury 12
Telepush 12
Telehold 1
Multishot 1

I like that build.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 25, 2008, 12:29:10 PM
WW 12
Meta 12
Fury 12
Telepush 12
Telehold 1
Multishot 1

I like that build.

ofmg i would use Heal instead of Multishout


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Hullu on September 25, 2008, 12:50:22 PM
Heal is only for templars aka. noobs.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 25, 2008, 12:57:50 PM
and Multi Shout only for prowlers :)


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Hullu on September 25, 2008, 13:09:00 PM
Oh really? My bad.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 27, 2008, 08:20:30 AM
Does Nobody have another good Reaver build? :(

Maybe a good one with Bone Armor? :)


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Sparrisen on September 27, 2008, 14:57:28 PM
FA 12
Gash 12
BA 12
Sprint 12
Tp 1
Th 1


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: mayhem on September 27, 2008, 15:13:32 PM
Sparrisen he asked for a good one :D


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Sparrisen on September 27, 2008, 18:47:26 PM
This is a good public one. For GvG's I've never used BA and think it's pretty useless unless you take BH's approach of self sacrifice strategy.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 27, 2008, 18:48:48 PM
Hmm is that build not good for GvGs ? because im not looking for publick builds :)


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Sparrisen on September 27, 2008, 19:09:18 PM
THen you should ask yourself, WHY do you want BA?

As I view the role of the Reaver:

1: You kill targets trying to kill your templar
2: You kill the enemy templar

Depending on your particulair role, these two objectives might have reversed priorities. Also, this is rather simplified, my full view of the Reaver role could be found in the old TEA guild forum, but is now lost.

The point IS, BA will not make you survive longer, and will NOT increase your damage on your targets. In FACT BA will make you do LESS damage by reducing your attackspeed. Oh yippie yay.

Highpriority targets like witch, templar, and in some cases prowler and SB will not hit you anyway if they can avoid it, so having BA as a team skill is pretty useless, as stated, if you don't have a strategy that relies on AoE damage.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 27, 2008, 19:59:44 PM
hmm ok then i wont use Bone Armor :) Didnt know that it is so useless^^


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Gish on September 28, 2008, 00:25:03 AM
12 Flurry
12 Meta
12 BB
12 Sprint
1 Push
1 Umm... I can't remember what I used for my last point here.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Kakemann on September 28, 2008, 09:11:38 AM
My guess is hold


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 28, 2008, 09:12:55 AM
Hold or Whirlwind i think because u need it for avoid bash or interupt op.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Oynamak on September 30, 2008, 18:06:51 PM
With BA:

Flurry/Fa 12
Gash 12
TP 1
TH 1
Sprint 12
BA 12


this I like very much..FA or flurry, as you want, I like both options ofc..FA+sprint = +100dmg, or you flurry/sprint around your target, both options are very effective ^^

or without BA:

Flurry 12/gash( in case of using FA+gash)
FA 12/gash( in case of using Flurry + gash)
TH 1
Tp 4
sprint 12
BB 8


BB/th/tp/sprint .. and a mix with flurry/fa/gash, depends on your playstyle.. some ppl can't play with flurry --> FA/gash, some can --> flurrry/FA-gash .. Flurry/FA with BB8 --> much dmg.. and due to BB u've got bleed-dmg without gash..


BA build more for public games, but it's also Gvg suitable imo.

BB build for Gvg's, but public suitable ^^ .. deals much dmg.. 1 seeker and this reaver build and enemys templar = taken down in a few seconds .. bullrush +Sprint/FA.. and flurry/BC ftw!


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 30, 2008, 19:12:26 PM
hmmm anyway i dont like this builds because they have Tele Push 1/4 but Tele Push 12 is rly helpfull.
With Tele Push 12 u can do this:
ure dead and u see a enemy EF 12 Witch gettting op. U could respawn get taunted and witch get op or u can wait till the last second then PUSH and taunt and the interupts fails often and the Witch doesnt get the op. And sometimes u cant respawn that fast and maybe only in the last or last 2 seconds so Tele Push 1 or 4 would fail but tele push 12 is allways usefull.

With tele push 1 or 4 u cant do this. And thats why i dont like it on a lvl under 12.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Oynamak on September 30, 2008, 19:51:59 PM
hmmm anyway i dont like this builds because they have Tele Push 1/4 but Tele Push 12 is rly helpfull.
With Tele Push 12 u can do this:
ure dead and u see a enemy EF 12 Witch gettting op. U could respawn get taunted and witch get op or u can wait till the last second then PUSH and taunt and the interupts fails often and the Witch doesnt get the op. And sometimes u cant respawn that fast and maybe only in the last or last 2 seconds so Tele Push 1 or 4 would fail but tele push 12 is allways usefull.

With tele push 1 or 4 u cant do this. And thats why i dont like it on a lvl under 12.


It's possible to interrupe witch @OP with TH or TP lvl 1 ..^^ and 12 points in telepush are wasted if U take my build. Causze if you put 12 points into TP, you have to take 1 skill at lvl 1. and sprint, flurry, FA at lvl 1 sux..and for interrups in fights, TP 1 TH 1 are enough too. 

this build doesnt work as good witch lvl 12 TP as witch lvl 1 TP and another skill lvl 12 ;d

u gotta try it ;x .. if U can't play with Flurry, put TP to lvl 12, and instead of flurry take whirlwind 1 (;


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: FLuori on September 30, 2008, 20:10:38 PM
I have lvl 4 push and got points from sprint :P its now lvl 9. Build fails badly but I really hate lvl 1 push, need to be so close to enemy to get an interrupt. And I have Meta to patch that sprint. Soon some one will comment that lvl 12 sprint is necessary.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: mayhem on September 30, 2008, 20:13:13 PM
Fluori you fail, lvl 12 sprint is necessary.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Sparrisen on September 30, 2008, 20:24:40 PM
Kastenko's build!

FA 12
Gash 12
TP 12
Sprint 12
Th 1
ww 1

It's got it all rly. A skilled player kicks ass with this.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: FLuori on September 30, 2008, 20:27:36 PM
hmm ok then i wont use Bone Armor :) Didnt know that it is so useless^^

Very good in 1v1. especially if you are against another reaver.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 30, 2008, 20:37:45 PM
Just post ur Reaver build here and write how to use if it isnt already posted. I wanna try something else then just the build i have right now.

Sprint 12
Gash 12
Fokus Attack 12
Telekinetic Push 12
Telekinetic Hold 1
Whirlwind 1

Sparissen here u can read again :) So ur post was useless :D


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 30, 2008, 20:38:23 PM
Hmm is that build not good for GvGs ? because im not looking for publick builds :)

Well as i say it for the second time:
Im looking for GvG builds and not Publick builds ;) with this i mean im not loooking for 1v1 builds too.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Sparrisen on September 30, 2008, 20:58:01 PM
I've already given you the best builds I have, currently I'm trying a variation of kastenkos, and it's pretty cool. I still dislike it because of it's heavy reliance on gash for damage. Check out my build "The Mixer" for the best bodyguard build I've come up with.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on September 30, 2008, 21:24:23 PM
We in AB dont need a bodyguard Reaver. We have our own tactics and we will try them out. Im sure they will work. With our tactic we dont need a templar bodyguard Reaver. Maybe i will have a look on ur char if we see our tactic doesnt work and we need a bodyguard Reaver :) But thx for the build anyway


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Sparrisen on September 30, 2008, 21:36:12 PM
Ok man ^^ Well, having your own tactics defines your own builds. So I can't help you with your GvG builds, and no one can without knowing the tactics you intend to use. The functional 1v1 builds is a good start however, to be modified.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on October 01, 2008, 06:58:28 AM
Well our Reavers need only Temp killer builds. All Reaver attack temp and SB attacks temp if he is in the fight and not at op or enemy base or so. For this job we need good builds. But rly only Reavers attack temp so dont say with ur build: Seeker bullrush on temp and i make Flurry Fokus Attack. Because there will be no Seeker who will rush the temp


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: mayhem on October 01, 2008, 10:33:17 AM
Whirlwind 1
Flurry 12
Meta 12
Sprint 12
Telekinetic Push 1
Bone Blades 12

So if you are looking for templar killer that is the one you are looking for (my favorite build atm, even better than the one without meta :))


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on October 01, 2008, 10:47:25 AM
Yea i like that build too its just that it rly sucks when ure the only temp killer and u have to kill templar. in GvG KoE vs LoA i have had this build and we played with:
1 Temp
2 Seeker
1 SB
1 Witch
1 Reaver
(i played in LoA)
the seekers didnt rush templar anyway. I dont know why because we said everyone attack templar but anyway they didnt so i was the only temp killer. Fero made NW and CE on Templar and Flurry was useless and i had no other skill i could deal dmg with. Thats why i dont like that build anyway. But yes 30% of the fights i killed temp alone as Reaver the build isnt that bad but it sucks when ure THE ONLY templar killer because u have only Flurry and no Gash no Fokus Attack.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Oynamak on October 01, 2008, 13:21:43 PM
If you're the templar killer, why is lvl 12 TP a must-have-skill in your option? ;D.. killing their templar means dealing much dmg in a short periode of time if you wan't to kill him alone, cuz if you aren't going to kill fast, their reavers/seeker will help their templar (just as you've got defend-seekers to defend your templar).. so killing their templar fast is the best way to go imo..the faster you kill, the faster you can help your own templar/team.. so imo flurry/FA/BB/sprint with TP 4 and TH or WW ( to avoid bash for instance) is one of those builds made for killing ( their templar, for instace) fast, cause you deal MuCh dmg in a short time, you can interrupe and avoid interrupes..



sprint+FA(dmg bonus,too),tele push, catch bash with Ww and start flurrying..after that FA cooldown is alrdy over and you can FA .. still alive?? --> attack, he won't heal himself as fast as your BB's give him the rest




'Kastenkos Build' posted by sparrisen : FA 12 Sprint 12 TP 12 gash 1 th 1 ww 1 .. also an awesome Builds Imo, just wanted to mention that.. I like this one :)


PS : Fluori, sprint 12 is neccesary *gg*


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on October 01, 2008, 13:31:06 PM
anyway i was looking for a good temp killer build (except for Kastenko's)
and i didnt find a better temp killer build with TP 12 than Kastenko's. Maybe i should use TP on a lower lvl if there is rly no build with TP 12 for a temp killer which is better than Kastenko's pls post if u know one with TP 12 :)


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Oynamak on October 01, 2008, 13:39:06 PM
anyway i was looking for a good temp killer build (except for Kastenko's)
and i didnt find a better temp killer build with TP 12 than Kastenko's. Maybe i should use TP on a lower lvl if there is rly no build with TP 12 for a temp killer which is better than Kastenko's pls post if u know one with TP 12 :)

TP 12 is nice, but imo TP 8 also does his job.. so just take an build you've read here and you like, and try to change it so that you've got TP 8.. ^^.. like :

Whirlwind 1         ---> Whirlwind 1
Flurry 12             ---> Flurry 12
Meta 12              ---> Meta 9
Sprint 12             ---> Sprint 12
Telekinetic Push 1 ---> Telekinetic Push 8
Bone Blades 12     ---> Bone Blades 8


smth like that, that's just an example but could work ofc^^
if tp 12 is a must-have for u and tp 8 isnt enough, take 4 points from any skill and put them into Tp to get TP 8 to TP 12.. :p


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Duunis on October 01, 2008, 14:00:14 PM
Meta 12
Bone Armor 12
Telekinetic Hold 12
Whirlwind 12
Telekinetic Push 1
Focus Attack 1

The best build in DS, gank em all!


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on October 01, 2008, 14:05:43 PM
Meta 12
Bone Armor 12
Telekinetic Hold 12
Whirlwind 12
Telekinetic Push 1
Focus Attack 1

The best build in DS, gank em all!

omfg not even Sprint on any lvl :(
Well if u would like to play with a build like this :D






what do you guys think about this TP12 build:
Flurry 12
FA 12
TH 1
Tp 12
sprint 12
Whirlwind 1


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Oynamak on October 01, 2008, 14:13:52 PM
omfg not even Sprint on any lvl :(
Well if u would like to play with a build like this :D






what do you guys think about this TP12 build:
Flurry 12
FA 12
TH 1
Tp 12
sprint 12
BB 1



mhm


( is doch fast wie meins, nur bb ganz low und tp ganz high ^^)


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Gish on October 01, 2008, 23:11:03 PM
omfg not even Sprint on any lvl :(
Well if u would like to play with a build like this :D






what do you guys think about this TP12 build:
Flurry 12
FA 12
TH 1
Tp 12
sprint 12
Whirlwind 1
Weak


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on October 01, 2008, 23:18:08 PM


mhm


( is doch fast wie meins, nur bb ganz low und tp ganz high ^^)


write english pls. Otherwise Smiskfisk is getting angry again *hope he doesnt read this :D* so german only in not publick theread ;)


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Oynamak on October 02, 2008, 09:24:32 AM

write english pls. Otherwise Smiskfisk is getting angry again *hope he doesnt read this :D* so german only in not publick theread ;)


Mhm was my post, which means *yes, I agree* .. :p


the thing in the () was just for u brummy. smth special .. xP


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Sparrisen on October 02, 2008, 10:45:26 AM
I would change ww1 to bb1 in that build.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on October 02, 2008, 11:19:48 AM
ok its done :)


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Pondus on October 06, 2008, 10:51:27 AM
my old reaver Mounir build is:

Sprint [1]
Bone Armor [9]
Whirlwind [12]
Flurry [12]
gash [4]
Telekinetic Push [12]


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Drollie on October 14, 2008, 19:27:38 PM
Flurry 12
FA 12
Hold or bone blades 1
Tp 12
sprint 12
Whirlwind 1

WW for surviving stuns, sprint for some tactical things and dodging, interupts and dmg, what more  could you dream off?


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Brummy on October 14, 2008, 20:38:30 PM
WW for surviving stuns, sprint for some tactical things and dodging, interupts and dmg, what more  could you dream off?

I could dream of Gash or high BB :D (against SB) :P


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Demolishor on October 31, 2008, 17:04:38 PM
a copy of the legendaric kuivausrumpu.

ww 8
meta 8
sprint 6
tp 4
bb 12
ba 12

might be trying ww 4, meta 8 in the near future, sprint 6 isn't actually necessary, but 2 points isn't that much.


Title: Re: Reaver Build
Post by: Fero on October 31, 2008, 19:36:19 PM
most lame build ever:

meta 1
BB 1
BA 12
WW 12
TP 12
Sprint 12

just start meta and sprint before you use WW into a group of enemies... when WW runs out, use TP to stun everone... kinda noob style, but sometimes fun ;)