Dawnspire Community Forums
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register. April 19, 2021, 03:23:26 AM

Login with username, password and session length

Sorry, you must be logged in to use the shoutbox!
  Show Posts
Pages: [1] 2
1  Dawnspire / Offtopic / Re: So this is it on: June 19, 2013, 05:39:28 AM
2  Dawnspire / Offtopic / Re: honest feedback on: May 23, 2012, 12:56:05 PM
Noted.  Yes, the chord interval at the end of Sigma is, though in a different key, the same interval at the end of Diplomatic Means- something which I adamantly protested but we went with band majority on that one.  Good pickup.  Hopefully the music can continue to function as 'focusing music' without waking you up too much.  Thanks again.

Caucus, get out of the cookie jar.
3  Dawnspire / Offtopic / Re: honest feedback on: May 17, 2012, 02:05:20 AM
This is great stuff.  Thank you all who have and haven't offered input.  To Nightmare and H2H, even experiential input like that is very helpful, so thank you.  To Faro, yes I would describe the music as sort of 'cinematic', and thus the emergence of a storyline for the music is ideal.  The fact that you kill The Lemon in the end is, I think, not entirely unrealistic and at the same time a complete fantasy, a paradox which I enjoy.  To Sparr, again I agree about the purposefulness of these songs compared to the others.  I experience the role of the instruments in a similar way as well- to me, the guitar offers more 'outer sphere' or ambient content (despite being the 'lead' instrument), and hence the importance of listening on good speakers, because the bass and drums really carry the compositions.  We are toying with the idea of lyrics, but they may only show up in future compositions.

Either way, thanks all for giving a listen.  It occurs to me now that the ds community feedback is among the limited feedback I'm actually interested in knowing or hearing about, which is curious.  Ideally one of these songs will make it onto the next glogifest soundtrack and I will be there to witness it.  Good luck to all.
4  Dawnspire / Offtopic / Re: honest feedback on: May 16, 2012, 06:41:30 AM
Great.  I agree with many of your points and hope you get a chance to listen to the other tracks.
5  Dawnspire / Offtopic / honest feedback on: May 15, 2012, 04:57:55 AM
Starting to do some recording- any feedback about the songs is welcome.  Try to listen on good speakers.

6  Dawnspire / Offtopic / Re: What is your current opinion on the BLC beta on: March 27, 2010, 22:52:10 PM
Guys guys guys.  I go away for a few days and all hell breaks loose.  You're both right, you're both wrong, and the rest of the community will not stand idly by the bloodshed of its members, particularly when the members are drawing the blood.  The last debate that ignored the fundamental rule that we are all ultimately on the same team ended in the destruction of the devs, and it was not pretty.  We don't want to lose you guys.

I call it fire
It calls me
With flames
And we burn

All circles end in death
By starvation
Of which only one type
Is this suicide
7  Dawnspire / Offtopic / Re: budding developers take note on: December 24, 2009, 05:08:55 AM
Please consider starting a Developer's Lessons thread to teach the rest of us the basics on becoming budding developers.
8  Dawnspire / Offtopic / Re: English Lessons on: December 24, 2009, 05:00:52 AM
Today's lesson:

Who vs. Whom
(Or: Bernhardt, whom fucking cares?)

Alright, this pair is right up there with 'i.e.' and 'e.g.' as linguistic items commonly misused by native English speakers.  The practical analysis is this:

1)  Like in any language, there are many proper grammatical rules that are commonly disregarded.  While there is a real difference between 'who' and 'whom', for the most part people just use 'who' all the time and nobody seems to care.  If you never in your life use the word 'whom', it may not affect you one way or the other.

If you don't really care about the details, you should stop reading now.

However, because there are still people who use the word 'whom' and it is technically proper English to do so, we will discuss proper uses of 'whom' so you understand it when you hear it and can use it in everyday speech.

2)  Basic breakdown: 'Who' is a subject pronoun; 'whom' is an object pronoun.

(Very brief grammar review: pronouns refer to nouns without using the noun's proper name [e.g. him, we, it].  Subject- main noun of sentence; performer of action.  Object- minor noun of sentence; recipient of action.  Swedes, feel free to refer to Sparrisen's post in the 'Swedish Lessons' thread for some clarification.)

As a brief example, consider:

"Who is going to help me?"  (Who is the subject of the sentence)
"You captured the relic, and you gave it to whom?"  (Whom is the recipient of the action)

3)  There is a good trick for determining if you should use 'who' or 'whom.  First take a look at some other subject and object pronouns:


So let's say you're writing a sentence and you don't know if you should use 'who' or 'whom'.  The trick is to ask yourself a question about the person you are referring to and see how you would answer it.  If you would answer it with 'he' (or another subject pronoun), then you should use 'who'.  If you would answer it with 'him' (or another object pronoun), then you should use 'whom'.

E.g. 1
"I don't think you understand ____ was on my team."
Ask: Who was on your team?
Answer:  HE was on my team.
Rewrite: "I don't think you understand WHO was on my team."

E.g. 2
"John was the person ____ I teamed up with yesterday."
Ask:  Who did you team up with yesterday?
Answer:  I teamed up with HIM.
Rewrite:  "John was the person WHOM I teamed up with yesterday."

There are some instances in English which can make choosing 'who' or 'whom' very difficult, but in general that's all it comes down to- determining whether the person is a SUBJECT (who) or an OBJECT (whom).

(One can also use the pronouns 'whoever' and 'whomever', which are frequently used in hyphothetical or subjunctive situations.  "Whoever wants this relic can come and get it!"  "You can talk to whomever you want, I don't care!"  Same rules apply. 

Note: the word 'whomever' is even more rare than 'whom', and even native speakers who use 'whom' properly will sometimes say e.g. "You can talk to whoever you want".)

4)  Examples of proper usage of 'who' and 'whom':
"Who is on your team?"
"Is that whom you were talking to?"  (Proper: "Is that to whom you were talking?")
"Tell me who is going with you."
"That's whom we were talking about." (Proper: "That's about whom we were talking.")
"Then the dark team, three of whom were reavers, conceded the match."
"These are the same people whom I played with last year."

5)  Very tricky proper usage examples that will test your understanding of English grammar:
"Just give the money to whoever shows up to the meeting."
"He told me to wait for whoever was on the phone."

Questions welcome.
9  Dawnspire / Offtopic / Re: English Lessons on: December 24, 2009, 03:24:17 AM
Today's lesson:

Word Review: The Noun 'News'

"No news is good news." -English proverb
"Where is all the news?" -Johan Gustafsson

News belongs to a category of nouns called "mass nouns".  (We have discussed these briefly earlier in the thread in our "Plurality of Nouns" section).  To review: mass nouns are referred to by HOW MUCH they are, not HOW MANY.  These nouns are, in general, more conceptual than they are concrete.  Another list of examples:


Most of you are familiar with mass nouns, so why is 'news' so tricky?

Looking at this list above, you may notice one thing unique to the word 'news': it ends with the letter 's'.  When people see this, they use their knowledge of plurality to deduce that 'news' is a plural noun.  And in some languages that would be the appropriate response- in French, for example, 'news' appears as 'nouvelles', which is indeed a plural noun.

Let's break it down:
1) 'News' is a 'mass noun', much like 'cheese', 'snow', and 'music'.  However, because of its etymology (it originated as the plural of 'new', meaning 'things that are new'), it is a rare exception of a singular noun in that it ends with an 's', but do not be fooled- THIS IS A SINGULAR MASS NOUN.

2)  As such, there is no 'plural' form of 'news'.  However, as with many mass nouns, there can clearly be 'more news', 'less news', 'no news', 'much news', and yes, 'ALL OF THE NEWS'.  Saying 'all of the news' (or 'all the news') may sound like we are referring to a plural noun, but in reality we use the word 'all' quite often in a qualitative sense, as opposed to a quantitative sense.  Consider:
"All of the cheese here IS delicious."
"All of the knowledge in the world won't save you now."
"I will trade you all the music in my collection for all the sugar in your pocket."
"All the news in today's paper was violent."

-The reason I mentioned regional variations in the earlier thread is because these rules are not constant throughout the world.  The example given earlier was more or less:
(US English): "The audience is getting restless."
(UK English): "The audience are getting restless."
So, in reference to Oynamakdaddy's comment, the answer is, for the most part mass nouns are referred to in the singular (e.g. 'air' always 'is', never 'are'), but there are some exceptions.

-As for Pimpdaddy's original comment- it is true, in 'street' English people tend to use 'is' when 'are' would be appropriate and in general this is just 'bad English'.  This is especially done with contractions; people get lazy and say "Where's" and then realize they're talking about a plural noun and don't bother changing it, resulting in something like "Where's all the dogs today?" which is clearly improper English but is very common not considered a big mistake.  I cannot think of an example of a case other than the word 'news' where using 'is' instead of 'are' is actually proper English in disguise, so don't worry.

To sum up:
While being a rare exception of a singular noun that ends in 's' and thus tricky to use, 'news' is a mass noun always used in the singular.
10  Dawnspire / Offtopic / Re: English Lessons on: December 16, 2009, 22:21:57 PM
Today's Lesson:  Noun Plurality, pt. 1

Singular- one
Plural- more than one

Plurality of nouns is mostly straightforward in English: to change a noun from singular to plural, one adds an 's' to the end of the noun.  E.g. 1 shadowblade -> 2 shadowblades.  The biggest exception to this rule comes when a noun already ends with an 's', 'z', or 'x', in which case one adds an 'es' so the new 's' sound is pronounced.  E.g. 1 mess -> 2 messes.  1 box -> 2 boxes.  (This is done to avoid the alternatives: 'messs' and 'boxs'.)

But we will be talking about tricky nouns today:

1) Here are some nouns that always exist in the plural:


So you will never hear any of these without their plural 's' ('there is a scissor on my pant' is not considered proper.  One would say, 'There are some scissors on my pants.')  If you absolutely need to make these singular, you have to change the noun, e.g. 'One pair of pants', which literally means 'two pants', but a 'pair' is singular.

2) There are also some nouns that are not pluralized by adding 's'.  Examples:


These nouns are frequently talked about by how MUCH they are, not how MANY.  (One would say, 'there is a lot of cheese', not 'there are 3 cheese'.)  However, please note that it is possible to make these words plural if, for instance, we are discussing 'types' of the noun.  Consider: 'There are many different cheeses in the world', or 'We have many different teas from which you can choose.'

3) Useful nouns to consider:

Stuff: This noun means 'things', and thus is implicitly plural.  One would never say 'stuffs' as a noun, as this would be like saying 'thingses', a pluralized plural, a concept which does not exist in English.  The difference between 'things' and 'stuff' is very subtle, but in general 'things' emphasizes the individuality of the objects being considered, while 'stuff' lumps them all into one category.  Consider: 'There is a bunch of stuff on the floor of my bedroom.'  'There are a lot of different things I don't understand about Finland.'

News: This noun is used like 'cheese' and 'water'- we talk about MUCH news there is, not how MANY.  As such, it is always treated as a singular noun.  Consider the Dawnspire main page sticky: 'Where IS all the news?'  (This is correct, as opposed to 'Where ARE all the news?')

[Animal nouns]: Many nouns that refer to animals do not change form from singular to plural.  1 sheep -> 2 sheep.  1 deer -> 2 deer.  1 trout -> many trout.  1 reaver -> ?  Keep that in mind.

4) As is the case with many English constructions, there are regional variations in noun pluralization.

For instance, I might say, 'The teacher returned all of the HOMEWORK yesterday.'  But Faro might say, 'The teacher returned all of the HOMEWORKS yesterday.'

In the States people usually refer to collective nouns in the singular, e.g. 'The audience IS getting rowdy.'  In Great Britain they would more likely say, 'The audience ARE getting rowdy.'

5) Questions welcome.
11  Dawnspire / Offtopic / Re: Things to do before you die on: December 09, 2009, 23:18:16 PM
Glögifest/skifest/tron2fest December 2010.  I'll be there.
12  Dawnspire / General Discussion / Re: Hours played in November on: December 02, 2009, 03:02:54 AM
Oynamak:  Maci Maci Italian Maci Italian adage ha lol ha 13 13 13 lol Italian Maci Sparrfart Maci
13  Dawnspire / General Discussion / Re: Hours played in November on: December 01, 2009, 20:28:28 PM
Hullu:   Forums Forums Forums Forums Forums Forums Forums
14  Dawnspire / Offtopic / Re: Swedish lessons on: November 30, 2009, 06:13:12 AM
Can you give some small sample phrases to help us become familiar with using the pronouns and see how verbs are conjugated.  We could start with

'I am bringing you the relic.  You are bringing me the relic.'

In Spanish, for instance, this would be translated as 'Te traigo la reliquia.  Me traes la reliquia.'  (Spanish does not use the present progressive [e.g. 'am bringing'] as much as English- you really need to be in the middle of doing something to say 'I am doing it', otherwise you just say 'I do it'.  Things like that would be helpful to know in Swedish as well.)  This shows us a little bit how Spanish constructs their sentences, uses pronouns, and conjugates verbs.

Maybe we can have a small phrase that we say in English and then translate into several languages to help across the board.  Maybe even have a representative for each language.  Sparr could take Swedish, I can take Spanish.  Oyna, Italian?  Anyone for Finnish, Greek, Dutch, Russian, or anything else?
15  Dawnspire / Offtopic / Re: English Lessons on: November 27, 2009, 09:10:05 AM
Nouns in English that end with -ance can frequently be used as an adjective if they end with -ant.  E.g:

adamant - adamance
abundant - abundance
defiant - defiance
tolerant - tolerance

There are exceptions.  But in general a good way to figure out how to spell a word is to think of other forms of the word.  The word 'sentence' is often misspelled 'sentance'.  To remember how to spell it, I remind myself that there is no word 'sentant' and so no word 'sentance'.  Very common word and very common mistake.

In similar fashion, another common mistake is that 'definitely' is frequently misspelled 'definately'.  The adjective form of the word is 'definite', as in 'de' + 'finite', hence 'definitely'.

We will cover other common spelling errors as we see them in the shout box.  Thank you for the Swedish lessons.
Pages: [1] 2
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS! Dilber MC Theme by HarzeM
Page created in 0.168 seconds with 17 queries.